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2006 Western World Alpinlite 31ck Fifth Wheel Reviews

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Topic: Alpenlite & Lippert frames
Posted By: Veebyes on 05/19/09 09:29am Does anyone know when Alpenlite stopped edifice their ain frames & started using Lippert frames?

I know my ex 06 Alpenlite was a Lippert frame. Non sure if they fabricated the switch in 04 or 05.

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Posted By: larry barnhart on 05/19/09 12:10pm I take the 04 alpenlite brochure and the 06 brochure but not the 05 and so the newer lippert frames could have started in 05 but not in 04. I besides accept the 03 brochure
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Posted By: Njmurvin on 06/10/09 05:48pm I'm looking at a 2005 Alpenlite Augusta. I saw this thread and wondered if the switch to Lippert was a good thing or bad thing?
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Posted By: Luke Porter on 06/ten/09 06:45pm

larry barnhart wrote:

I have the 04 alpenlite brochure and the 06 brochure but not the 05 so the newer lippert frames could accept started in 05 but non in 04. I besides have the 03 brochure
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And so, the brochure mentions a Lippert frame?

Yep, actually drove to all of these places---in the last eight years. Missed Rhode Isle and New Jersey.

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Posted By: jdog on 06/10/09 06:51pm

Njmurvin wrote:

I'one thousand looking at a 2005 Alpenlite Augusta. I saw this thread and wondered if the switch to Lippert was a good matter or bad affair?

Non a adept thing. Lippert is known for problems with everything they make.

Posted By: larry barnhart on 06/10/09 06:52pm No it doesn't mentioned the lippert frame infact I believe they didn't want to let on the fact they stopped making their own frames. It was a bragging story at the manufacturing plant on why the inhouse frames were improve. Boy that was a true argument.
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Posted Past: larry barnhart on 06/10/09 08:05pm

jdog wrote:

Njmurvin wrote:

I'one thousand looking at a 2005 Alpenlite Augusta. I saw this thread and wondered if the switch to Lippert was a good matter or bad thing?

Non a skillful affair. Lippert is known for issues with everything they make.


The Augusta does not have a Lippert frame. The Augusta was a very big seller for alpenlite.
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Posted By: Veebyes on 06/10/09 09:54pm There is a world of departure between the Lippert frame & the Alpenlite frame.

I had a look at an 05 Alpenlite as a possible replacement for my 06 blowover Alpenlite just decided to pass on it due to bug which had cypher to practice with either the frame or Alpenlite.

Knowing the Lipppert weak spots help. After informing the dealer of Lippert frame cracking to a higher place leap hangers my 'new' 07 Alpenlite has had reinforcing plates welded higher up each hanger, as I had done to my lost Alpenlite.

Anyone with a Lippert frame, specially with a heavy house on top would do well to inspect the frame. Mobile Suite owners, for ane, should take a look.

Plating the frame before failure is far cheaper than having a failure to fix.

Posted Past: Delaine and Lindy on 06/12/09 08:29am I just returned from Goshen Ind and toured the Drv factory. Got to meet the Lippert frames that were congenital for Drv spec's (15" frames). I suppose Mobile Suites has had some frame issue's but I haven't met anyone personally who have had a problem. Our Mobile Suites has been issue free. And aye it's a heavy 5th bike, merely later touring the factory I now know why. The materails used and the nigh R-cistron (3 1/four" walls) in the manufacture. We must understand that well-nigh RV'south built in Ind are using Lippert frames and Lippert builds the frames which are spec by the RV builder. We have owned 5 fifth wheels with the Lippert frames and no bug and the 2010 Mobile Suites we but ordered will take a Lippert frame blueprint past Drv. Drv is also looking into having a option for a Motor Cycle trailer with a unmarried wheel, and sent the frame plans and design and the trailer builder said there would take to be nothing more than every bit for making the frame stronger, the Drv frames are strong enough to handle the trailer at present. GBY...
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Posted By: Puddles on 06/13/09 07:59pm Lippert makes frames to customer specifications or else they would be out of business. Equally long as people volition go on to buy trailers with poor quality frames.. not much will change.. looking underneath and into nooks where weld joints can be inspected, should rank right up in that location with what color the defunction are...
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Posted Past: larry barnhart on 06/13/09 08:15pm Ok I read information technology like this a company tells Lippert to requite some junk frames with first grade welders so nosotros can sell junk. Non what I desire to call up for any make of trailers simply it seems to exist the style it is.
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Posted By: Veebyes on 06/13/09 09:45pm I must accept scared the 'you know what' out of the salesperson a few weeks ago when I asked virtually the frame under the Alpenlite. She did not know. I already knew the answer. But testing. At that place was an awful lot more she did non know.

Start identify I went, earlier fifty-fifty looking inside the the trailer, was under the trailer. I mean really crawling right UNDER the trailer looking for loose U bolt nuts, wheels out of alignment (they were, slightly), missing spare wheel (one had been in that location) etc. Non many potential buyers even bend down to look. Its all nigh what is inside.

My comments most the Lippert frame of my previous (well-nigh same model) Alpenlite got me reinforcement plating above the spring hangers at no additional charge. Didn't even accept to ask for it which tells me that dealers are well aware of potential frame issues.

Posted By: malibooty on 06/xiii/09 11:18pm

Veebyes wrote:

I must have scared the 'you lot know what' out of the salesperson a few weeks ago when I asked nigh the frame under the Alpenlite. She did not know. I already knew the answer. Just testing. There was an atrocious lot more she did non know.

First place I went, earlier even looking inside the the trailer, was under the trailer. I mean really crawling right Under the trailer looking for loose U bolt nuts, wheels out of alignment (they were, slightly), missing spare bicycle (one had been there) etc. Non many potential buyers even bend downwards to expect. Its all most what is inside.

My comments about the Lippert frame of my previous (near aforementioned model) Alpenlite got me reinforcement plating above the leap hangers at no additional charge. Didn't even accept to enquire for it which tells me that dealers are well aware of potential frame problems.

How much can you meet with an enclosed underbelly? leaf springs is about information technology.

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Posted By: RGordon on 06/14/09 12:16pm No broken welds yet on my Lippert frame (Mobile Suites), but it is merely a thing of time. You cannot build a super heavy camper on a frame, even a xv incher, that looks like a kid welded it. I could not believe how the welds look upwardly in pinbox area. I empathise they utilize automatic welding systems to stick their frames together, but having a welding background, really makes you wonder just how long information technology will stay together. I also blame the fiver manufacturers for accepting their built to specs frames and have concerns over their quality control. I am considering adding a small welding machine to my must take items when traveling just as a precaution.
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Posted By: mdmike on 06/xv/09 12:38pm I'thou looking at a 2005 Alpenlite 36' Portofino Villa. Anyone know if it has a Lippert frame?? Anyone familiar with this model - good/bad?
Thank you
Posted By: Delaine and Lindy on 06/fifteen/09 05:28pm Well I gauge if you don't desire a Lippert frame, your choices of a 5th will be very express. I guess there is probably less than two RV manufactors who are buiding their on frames. GBY....
Posted By: larry barnhart on 06/fifteen/09 07:43pm

mdmike wrote:

I'thousand looking at a 2005 Alpenlite 36' Portofino Villa. Anyone know if it has a Lippert frame?? Anyone familiar with this model - practiced/bad?
Thanks

this model does not have a Lippert frame and is biggest alpenlite fabricated. 16000 GVWR. I have a brochure for the 04 Portofino Villa that should be the same as the 05.
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Posted By: rznkane2hunt on 06/25/09 06:33pm I have a Lippert frame (07 forest river wildcat) and my natural language tore well-nigh completly off, the frame buckled in a higher place the pin box, and there are cracks you can come across straight through above the bound hangers. If you want pictures I will email them besides. I accept been fighting them since mid April to fix it and it has been an all upward hill boxing.
Posted By: Willcamp4 on 08/01/09 09:58pm My 2005 Alpenlite (Alpenchunk) Valhalla Limited nonetheless has the in-house frame. I've had no issues with it. The only problem I've had with the trailer was caused by burglars. Otherwise information technology has been an excellent trailer. Despiute the name they don't build them low-cal; they are built heavy.
If they switched to Lippert frames it was later on the new owners took over and started making changes following 2005.
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Posted By: JR45 on 08/02/09 12:06am Western RV started using Lippert frames when they started making the Voyager. The Limited however used the in firm frames.
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Posted Past: Veebyes on 08/02/09 06:49am I got an excellent view of my Alpenlite 2006 34RLR Voyager, Limited when this happened to it May this year. Wyoming blowover.

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Got an unusually good wait at its Lippert frame, complete with many sloppy welds.

Posted By: buc1980 on 08/02/09 07:35am I am glad that I don't accept a Lippert frame on my trailer.
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Posted By: larry barnhart on 08/02/09 01:17pm Me also merely what if a wreck would total our wonderful 2001 alpenlite the choices are small. Only acouple companies are still non lippert at this time.
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Posted By: roverlr3 on 08/02/09 03:17pm Guys I but bid on an 05 "alpenlite augusta 32RL Limited" yesterday. If I'm hearing and reading chevman correctly It has an in-house built frame. Is this correct Chevman? And since the others (pregnant other manufacturers) aren't using to what some might consider as good a frame, this may make me re-think my initial bid if the dealer doesn't have my 1st offer. Thoughts whatever i?
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Posted By: Veebyes on 08/02/09 03:46pm I took a look at an 05 Alpenlite when shopping for a replacement for our wreck, above. First place I went was a crawl under the trailer to have a expect at the frame. Virtually inpressive! We did not buy it. Besides many maintenance issues caused by owner neglect. The worst was the fresh water tank which was allowed to plough into a huge icecube as the trailer spent a winter on a MT mountain top for the winter. If we looked past all the dirt inside, information technology was easy to see that the 05 was built far meliorate than our 06.
Posted By: larry barnhart on 08/02/09 04:01pm

roverlr3 wrote:

Guys I only bid on an 05 "alpenlite augusta 32RL Limited" yesterday. If I'm hearing and reading chevman correctly It has an in-house congenital frame. Is this right Chevman? And since the others (pregnant other manufacturers) aren't using to what some might consider equally expert a frame, this may make me re-call up my initial bid if the dealer doesn't accept my 1st offer. Thoughts whatever ane?
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You are skilful to go. Inhouse frame on the agusta. Make the little woman happy and hitting the road . when y'all get information technology send me your mail service address and I will postal service you the 04 brochure. I thought I had the 05 simply even so looking. 03 alpenlite also but the same brochure.
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Posted Past: jdog on 06/13/09 04:38pm I've got a Lippert Frame and have looked shut at it. The welds are terrible. The beeds are not beeds. Just goobs of weld then a space and and then another goob. Yous recall in that location was whatever penetration? Guess again. This is a "certified LIPPERT frame". The welder for Lippert has not washed much welding, that's for sure. He has done too much for Lippert.
Posted Past: richfaa on 02/eighteen/10 07:52am We take toured the Lippert plant more than one time. A tour and request some questions on how the frames are made and where the spec's come up from is interesting. We have a Liuppert Frame.....no problems....
The frame is what the RV manufacturer wants it to exist..

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Posted Past: nelsbells on 02/eighteen/ten 08:37am Carriage makes their own frames! I have a '06 35' CKQ (hvy unit) and have had no issues afterward 65k miles.
Posted Past: jbtaz on 02/19/10 09:00am

Veebyes wrote:

From what I could see of an 05 that I looked at the cantankerous section of the WRV frame is a box. The Lippert is a 'U'.

The trailer that I lost in the blowover, pictured previously, was an early 06 34RLR Ltd. The first owner took commitment early Apr 06. They told him that it was the first one of that model off the line.

My electric current Alpenlite, a 34RLR (no Ltd.) with a Dec 07 build date, has the same 'U' shaped frame cross section.

I'm guessing that I take one of the terminal Alpenlites made.


According to the newsletter, that would exist right. It was dated in Feb. of 06. They built a few Limited and Voyager models in 2006 that were sold as 2006 models. Some that were made after in 2006 were listed as 2007 models. All should have Lippert frames.
Posted By: Veebyes on 02/eighteen/10 07:22pm From what I could see of an 05 that I looked at the cross section of the WRV frame is a box. The Lippert is a 'U'.

The trailer that I lost in the blowover, pictured previously, was an early on 06 34RLR Ltd. The get-go possessor took delivery early Apr 06. They told him that it was the first one of that model off the line.

My current Alpenlite, a 34RLR (no Ltd.) with a Dec 07 build appointment, has the same 'U' shaped frame cross section.

I'yard guessing that I take one of the last Alpenlites made.

Posted Past: coltbreaker on 02/xviii/10 08:57am In 06 WRV changed their floorplanns and designs and tried to cease making the Portifino and Augusta ( their frame blueprint was dissimilar with the property tanks below the frame and the new blueprint with the tanks in between the frame) The dealers complained nearly losing their all-time sellers and WRV kept making them for at least a year. I have the 06 and 07 brochure and their is no mention of the frame structure(also as no floorplan of the Portifino and Augusta). The Voyager and the Limited were made on the same associates line and later on seeing both an 07 Voyager(ours) and an 07 Limited in that location is no structural difference( I likewise have the dealer's info canvas on the differences between the Limited and the Voyager and the differences are mostly corrective except for the windows) I would question wether the Portifino and the Augusta weren't fabricated in house. In 07 the new owners were yet trying to amke a adept go of the visitor. They called u.s.a. after we had our 07 fo a couple of months , making sure we were happy and if there was annihilation they needed to alter to make things better and how they were looking forrard to making the company a great one again-oh well! We are still happy with our 07 and tin discover very little out at that place nosotros would change for.
Posted By: jbtaz on 02/18/10 ten:08am

coltbreaker wrote:

In 06 WRV inverse their floorplanns and designs and tried to end making the Portifino and Augusta ( their frame blueprint was unlike with the holding tanks below the frame and the new design with the tanks in between the frame) The dealers complained nearly losing their all-time sellers and WRV kept making them for at least a year. I have the 06 and 07 brochure and their is no mention of the frame construction(besides equally no floorplan of the Portifino and Augusta). The Voyager and the Limited were made on the same assembly line and after seeing both an 07 Voyager(ours) and an 07 Limited at that place is no structural difference( I also have the dealer's info canvas on the differences between the Limited and the Voyager and the differences are mostly cosmetic except for the windows) I would question wether the Portifino and the Augusta weren't fabricated in house. In 07 the new owners were still trying to amke a good become of the company. They chosen u.s. afterwards we had our 07 fo a couple of months , making sure we were happy and if in that location was anything they needed to change to make things better and how they were looking forwards to making the company a corking one again-oh well! We are notwithstanding happy with our 07 and can discover very trivial out there nosotros would modify for.


Coltbreaker is pretty shut. I have a re-create of a newsletter sent to dealers describing some of the changes. In it stated the "Erstwhile Limited(Medinah,Augusta,ect.)models would be available in 2006 but would be carry over 2005 models." The new Limited models would carry an alpha-numeric naming system,IE 31CK,31RK,34RL,ect.,and supercede the former Express by the end of 2006. There are some new Limited models,built in mid 2006 that are called 2007 models.The way I translate it is that only the new Limited would have Lippert frames. Hope that helps.
Posted By: NEVERSWEAT7 on 02/17/10 07:27pm

Fordf350super wrote:

I have a 2003 Alpenlite Portifino and information technology has a in business firm frame made past Alpenlite...Thought y'all might similar to know....

my 05 Portofino has an in house frame..

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Posted Past: Fordf350super on 02/17/x 06:11pm I have a 2003 Alpenlite Portifino and it has a in business firm frame made by Alpenlite...Thought you might like to know....
Posted By: BOB MU on 02/17/10 06:59pm Does anyone know for sure. I think the Arctic Trick has an in house frame? Non a lippert?

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